http://exposingthebiggame.wordpress.com/2012/12/10/its-hard-to-be-ethically-consistent-while-tap-dancing-on-eggshells/
Dear Mr. Robertson,
I was wondering your opinion on the subject of
animal rights vs. the rights of indigenous people. What do you think about
hunting by Native American tribes, or the hunting of seals by the Inuit?
Also, of course, the various other tribes around the world that have their
culture based off of hunting. What do you think about their participation in
hunting, trapping, etc?
Hmmm, one of those questions…one of those
I-wouldn’t-touch-that-with-a-ten-foot-pole kind of questions. Do I risk
being called a hypocrite, or “culturally elite?” I could spend all day
tip-toeing around this—tap-dancing on egg shells—but here’s an answer just
off the top of my head:
My objection to hunting, trapping and seal
clubbing is colorblind as well as culture-blind. I oppose cruelty to
animals, no matter who is doing the shooting, trapping or clubbing. A victim
doesn’t suffer any less because of the ethnicity or cultural beliefs of
their executioner. An animal’s right to a life, free from harm, trumps
anyone’s right to exploit or kill them (unless someone is literally starving
to death and has no other options, which is not the case for most who hunt,
trap, club seals, harpoon whales or trade in bushmeat).
Why oppose
the Japanese or the Faeroese for slaughtering dolphins or pilot whales and
not the Makah for killing grey whales, or even the Inuit for hunting bowhead
whales? We’re all part of the species, Homo sapiens, and our ancestors all
used to live by hunting and trapping. For better or worse, we’re all moving
forward technologically, so there’s no reason we shouldn’t all move forward
in our treatment of non-human animals.
That’s my humble opinion,
anyway. It might not be popular, but it’s ethically consistent.
Joe Miele on
December 10, 2012 at 8:52 pm said:
Funny – I received the very same
question, most likely from the very same person. My answer was that any
custom or tradition that requires violence and killing is better off falling
into extinction (regardless of the culture practicing them), just as the
traditions of foot binding, slavery, selling one’s daughter into marriage
and hurling virgins into volcanoes have vanished from existence. I further
said that it’s time for humans to become a more peaceful species and evolve
beyond the violent traditions of the past.
They will no doubt try to pick
apart our comments and call us racist, but there’s no racism involved – our
opposition to speciesism is what drives us.
theanimalspirits on
December 10, 2012 at 8:57 pm said:
Agreed.
Deborah Zarett on
December 11, 2012 at 5:16 am said:
absolutely. yet you will continue
to find “multiculturalists” excusing still-extant practices done to humans
(mostly women) such as FGM and widow-burning under the “it’s part of their
culture” excuse. So obviously what’s done to animals is of even less
importance to them.
Deborah Zarett on
December 11, 2012 at 5:19 am said:
and there is STILL the selling of
daughters into marriage or prostitution, and there is still “slavery- it’s
just called “human trafficking” or “indentured servitude” now.
theanimalspirits on
December 10, 2012 at 8:57 pm said:
Well put. Agreed.
Geoff on
December 10, 2012 at 8:58 pm said:
I think you are right on the money
here, Jim. While it would be hard to condemn a person living in an
agriculturally impossible region like the arctic for killing a non-human
animal if the alternative were starvation, most of these indigenous
communities fail to see the incongruity of using high technology items
(motor boats, snowmobiles, shot guns, high power rifles, fish finders, metal
leg-hold traps) in furtherance of their purportedly traditional practices.
Not one of these “native” communities could manufacture any one of these
products of industrial society, even the simplest, on their own. Once you
start chasing whales in motorized boats, shooting at them with rifles,
pulling them ashore with motorized winches and then going home to watch HBO
while snacking on micorwaved blubber, you’ve given up any pretense of a
subsistence life-style. Furthermore, these indigenous types rarely seem
adverse to selling off their “subsistence” catch, whether walrus ivory or
whale meat or harp seal fur, to the highest bidder from the “developed”
world.
While acknowledging that many indigenous peoples are unfortunately
mired in poverty, there is just so much sympathy to go around and I,
personally, am saving it for the non-human animals
who have been
persecuted and victimized by human predators to the point where they are
literally facing extinction.
Dywane Brown on
December 10, 2012 at 9:50 pm said:
Not even I can argue with that
statement. Many so called “substance” “hunters” shot themselves in the foot
when I seem them on Discovery channel (which I now dispise) with housing,
power, various material possesions including: electronics, snowboards, atvs,
snowmobiles, etc. That violates my view on true survival. If it where up to
me, men could hunt what ever they wanted, but the catch is you can only use
your bare hands like real preadtors (no cheating).
Exposing the Big Game
on
December 11, 2012 at 4:51 am said:
Right, that’s the reality of it
Exposing the Big Game
on
December 11, 2012 at 4:59 am said:
And then there’s the guided
commercial big game hunts that pit them against those want polar bears
protected.
ingrid on
December 10, 2012 at 9:16 pm said:
Geoff, your comment about
commercial enterprise is an important factor beyond the ethical one. Here in
Washington, as Jim knows, some of the salmon netted by treaty agreement in
Puget Sound sell to big grocery chains, and the fisheries issue is
consistently contentious based on some of these ambiguous delineations.
Exposing the Big Game
on
December 11, 2012 at 5:01 am said:
Not to mention whale products sold
commercially.
louisekane
on
December 10, 2012 at 10:11 pm said:
excellent commentary Jim, again
Exposing the Big Game
on
December 11, 2012 at 4:50 am said:
Thanks again Louise!
Jenny
Rundell on
December 10, 2012 at 11:40 pm said:
No doubt the animals suffered but
some tribes in Africa etc. don’t live if they don’t hunt. This is where
hunting originated from. The need to survive. I am completely against
hunting for sport and slaughter houses.
Laura on
December 11, 2012 at 12:55 am said:
I had a “stepmother” of sorts who
was of the opinion she “loved” “her” dogs but fully understood and supported
people who cage, slaughter and eat dogs because, as she sat back reclining
smugly in her easy chair and said, “It’s their culture and who are we to
judge?” I hoped for her to end up as the main course in a cannibals’ culture
with her having no room to judge. She’d have been screaming loud enough to
be heard round the world from that giant stew pot. I of course agree with
you Jim, culture is no excuse, not when we have fertile land to grow crops,
and world trade, and when we want compassion and peace for ourselves. A
saying I got from Klimatik on youtube: Eliminate Excuses… Not Animals.
Exposing the Big Game
on
December 11, 2012 at 4:49 am said:
Great analogy Laura, I’m glad you
agree.
Deborah
Zarett on
December 11, 2012 at 5:23 am said:
@Laura: those types of people
absolutely infuriate me. Maybe there are tribes in remote areas of Borneo
who would like to test her view.